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Post by Jane on Jun 17, 2019 7:00:05 GMT -7
Was she sitting on the egg all the time? They do seem to want to be together but at least Manzi is coming back to you too.
Jane
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Post by chris on Jun 17, 2019 19:43:14 GMT -7
It is sad. I've watched both an eagle web-cam this spring with babies which ended tragically and just recently witnessed a very sad incident near my home with a duck that I can't repeat as it gets me too upset.
The eagle incident was followed up by an on-line Q&A by an avian expert and she talked about how birds very much go through a grieving process. Unlike humans however, the grieving process is fairly brief and they resume their normal activities fairly quickly. Obviously a survival instinct that has suited them quite well, but it's still difficult. I'm glad Maui is settling back in and expect Manzi will with time. They are born to pro-create I suppose, it's their nature and their reason for incredible evolutionary success. Probably we humans are just transient observers - they will be here long after we are gone.
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Post by Adele on Jun 18, 2019 10:21:27 GMT -7
Maui was sitting on her egg a lot of the day. She'd come out for food, then rush back in to her egg.
I used to watch eagle cams a lot. I've not watched any specific ones this year (just every so often checking in, but not the daily watching I used to do several years ago).
I also read a book from a scientist about emotions in animals where they offered lots of scientific studies showing how animals can experience very intense emotions too. Because of that, I wish Maui had a little baby to love because she's seemed to want one for years now. She tries very hard and is so dedicated to her eggs.
Manzi is very dedicated to Maui and he would often go and look at her on the eggs, but he seems a bit more selfish in that he wanted Maui's attention for himself and got bored with her when she was so caught up with her egg.
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Post by Adele on Apr 9, 2020 12:25:04 GMT -7
So just an update. Now I'm able to hold Manzi again (after his night out, he's been coming to me again). I suspected that he would have let me hold him several months ago, but I've been afraid and still used treats and a carrier to transport him. But now, I've been luring him with treats, and he's been happily stepping up on my hand again. He's very suspicious of me and flinchy, but that's understandable after me not holding him for so long. I'm still not scratching him while holding him, but he continues to let me scratch him through the bars of his cage. I think he's finally realizing that I'm not a threat to his and Maui's relationship and I mean neither of them any harm.
Maui is still just as sweet as always.
I'm beyond relieved and happy to be able to handle Manzi more directly again. It kinda broke my heart when he decided I was the enemy. I thought that maybe it would be the forever new normal, so it is delightful for things to have progressed to this point!!
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Post by Haz on Apr 9, 2020 13:21:19 GMT -7
That's great news. Some good has come out of your trauma.
Haz
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Post by Adele on Apr 16, 2020 19:39:33 GMT -7
Today we turned over another leaf. I've been holding Manzi every day, but very cautiously and only with treats. I have still been using a little carrier to transport Manzi to and from the aviary in the back. I put an almond in the carrier and he hops right in. He knows the drill and happily complies because they love hanging out in the aviary. Anyway, today, I took Maui first, and then went for Manzi and he wouldn't get in the carrier (he's been going in the carrier for a year and has never refused after he first learned the process). I put more treats in it and he backed away, without fluffing and he whistled and chatted to me. I put my hand in the cage, and he hopped right onto my hand. So he still really wanted to go into the aviary, but it was like he was telling me that he's ready to trust me again, and I can trust him. Bringing him in later today, he was just as cheerful and came right on my hand.
I admit, I'm a little scared still because a bad bite really hurts, but Manzi is just melting my heart. I love my little boy soooo much!!!
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Post by beakertrout on Apr 16, 2020 21:28:35 GMT -7
Getting bit is no fun at all.
Especially by a can opener with an attitude.
Beaker nailed me today, drew blood too!
Was my own fault for being within striking distance while on the phone.
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Post by chris on Apr 17, 2020 9:02:27 GMT -7
That's awesome Adele - what a heartwarming story!
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Post by Thomas on Apr 17, 2020 9:44:37 GMT -7
Glad she is trusting you again, that is great news. Sheeba bites me every few weeks, usually related to not wanting to go in the cage or something I am wearing. But it doesn't bother me too much, she is so sweet 95% of the time. She draws a little blood, but nothing like an Amazon bite!
Thomas
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Post by Haz on Apr 18, 2020 12:40:42 GMT -7
It is wonderful that Manzi is trusting you again. We all know how much one of those bites hurt!
Haz
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Post by Jane on Apr 19, 2020 2:08:49 GMT -7
That's good to hear, I think the shared ordeal of his night out has made him realise he does want a good relationship with you.
I haven't been bitten for a long time but the worst bite was when I was on the phone and holding Mitzi on my other hand. She was happy until I said how good she was being and then she bit down hard, twice.
Jane
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