marleybird
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Post by marleybird on Apr 16, 2005 14:08:49 GMT -7
Hi all,
I'm a bit worried about marley tonight as when he came to sit with me, his feet were cold, enough for me to feel them through my jeans, also his beak is colder than usual.
I have not changed any suroundings where his cage is kept, & he has had no foods that can harm him, he looks fine in himself.
i have put some avipro in his water to see if that will help.
Any advice and suggestions would be most apprieceated.
thanks
Amanda and marley
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Post by barryrendell3858 on Apr 16, 2005 14:22:02 GMT -7
hi marley bird
sparky sometimes has cold feet and beak he also had his feet trapped in the door yesterday by one of the kids shutting it but he's fine now hope that helps though
barry
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Post by barryrendell3858 on Apr 16, 2005 14:24:11 GMT -7
sorry forgot to mention when he's cold i just turn the heating up a little that works a treat if you have central heating if not try to get a floor heater if its cold in the house he's happy when its warm lol
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Preston
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Post by Preston on Apr 16, 2005 22:25:10 GMT -7
Hi Guyz,
Birds have a body temperature higher than ours (aprox. 104). They are obviously covered with feathers that they use as an insulator from the cold. When it gets hot, there has to be a way to disperse the heat (elephant’s ears), the feet are bare skin with a major blood supply. The season change primordially switches; you cool your home to be comfortable; we are domesticated, our Greys are not. Cold feet are common here; in fact Baby Girl sleeps on my shoulder with her beak in my ear, to breath the warm air. The beak has no blood supply, so if it’s cold, that temperature is a product of ambience due to the surroundings. You may quote a specific temp, that has not changed, but heat is high in humidity, and A/C removes the humidity. There is a THI (temperature humidity index) of 5 degrees between the two. I’d say he is OK if all of his personality is intact
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Post by Jane on Apr 17, 2005 1:37:19 GMT -7
We had a query about feet back in March, although it was about hot feet rather than cold, the reverse applies. This is what I wrote then:
The body temperature is around 40 degrees C (104F).
The blood flow to the feet is increased if the bird is hot, as a means of cooling down, and decreased if it is cold, and of course if one foot has been tucked up in its body, that one will feel warmer.
Jane
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Preston
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Post by Preston on Apr 18, 2005 20:02:22 GMT -7
Yeah, she did say it better. Sometimes I ramble on. My attention has been drawn away for personal reasons. I'm glad I have a team-mate that is better focused to help the friends of Dandy's.
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marley
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Post by marley on Apr 19, 2005 1:31:40 GMT -7
Thanks guy's, sorry i forgot to login before i typed this,
I'm sorry i have not got back to you sooner but my horse has had a serious puncture to his hoof which has caused an absess,
As for marley, the weather here in the uk has been up and down, but now i have sorted the problem, we had the heating swiched on when the weather was cooler, but maybe a bit to higher than normal,
but his feet have warmed up again.
I did not know that if a gray is hot his feet will be cold,
you learn something new every day.
but he is very well in himself,
never shuts up LOL
Thanks again
marleybird
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Post by lidiam on Apr 19, 2005 2:25:05 GMT -7
I knew none of that either, you live and you learn! And I've had Joshua for fifteen years, without noticing this. D'oh. I love this place. Marleybird, I hope your horse's hoof gets better soon, poor baby.  Lidia |
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Post by marley on Apr 19, 2005 2:37:15 GMT -7
Hi Lidiam,
Thank you for your kind words,
animals who'd have em LOL,
but yes all my animals are my babies, and its hard when things go wrong, but soul man (solly) is such a sweety and never feels sorry for himself, but we have got to the problem with his hoofs in time thank god,
we also have a dog who is getting over kennal cough, but again is such a strong dog,
then there is marley, no major probs with him, apart from a foul mouth, taught to him by friend who thought it funny to teach him to swear, not very good when our pastor comes round for a cuppa,
marley says (praise the lord) in one sentence then (f******) in the next, not good at all, but we are ignoring him when he does this, result= hes not saying it so much,
nice talking to you
marleybird
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Post by Jane on Apr 19, 2005 9:11:36 GMT -7
Marleybird
Maybe I didn't explain it very well after all but if a grey is hot his feet will be hot, not cold. The blood flow to the feet is increased to dissipate the heat and makes the feet hot. On the other hand, if it is cold the blood flow is decreased to try and conserve body heat and the feet will feel cold.
Jane
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Preston
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Post by Preston on Apr 21, 2005 20:15:30 GMT -7
I apoligize: I stand corrected. The beak actually has a blood supply and should be considered when trimming.
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marleybird
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Post by marleybird on Apr 22, 2005 2:07:27 GMT -7
Hi Preston, Call me stupid, but i did not know that the beak could be trimmed LOL, I thought the beaks got bigger as the bird got older, maybe its time for a trip to my avian vet,  marley hates the vet, i do marleys claws myself reguarly with an emory board, as he is now used to this, ;D Thanks mate |
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Post by Jane on Apr 22, 2005 2:14:49 GMT -7
The beak is the same as the nails in that it grows continuously. It normally gets worn down by use but sometimes might need trimming if it gets a bit overgrown. Plenty of chewable toys in the cage help.
Jane
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marleybird
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Post by marleybird on Apr 22, 2005 2:24:49 GMT -7
Hi Jane,
Thanks for that, the pic of marley to the left of the screen is a resent photo, what do you think ?
also he always has toys to chew, and he is always chewing LOL
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Post by Jane on Apr 22, 2005 3:47:10 GMT -7
It is difficult to tell from the photo but it isn't generally something that needs to be done.
If he is chewing a lot he will most likely be keeping it worn down.
The alignment and interaction of the upper and lower beak also helps to keep the beak in trim and from what I can see his looks okay.
Jane
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