debs12o
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Post by debs12o on Nov 26, 2005 2:39:54 GMT -7
Hi Guys, I am really worried about Charlie. Yesterday he started acting very strange as though he was very irritated by something. My partner was in all day with him (but he is a mummies boy) and by the time I had come home from work he has a bald bum! He is still picking at it this morning. Ofcourse we has tried everything to distract him, but nothing is working! He isn't even singing and is very moody. I bought some aloe vera and I rubbed it on his bare skin last night night, I'm not sure if that helped or not! This isn't the first time he has done this, he done it in june too and eneded up tail less, but all the feathers had grown back and now he is doing it again! I am devistated that he might be unhappy abput something! Can anyone give us some advise. Please. Debs
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Maria.
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Post by Maria. on Nov 26, 2005 2:42:29 GMT -7
Aw bless the poor little blighter. *hugs*. I was reading on the Internet the other day doing some research about AGs, and they usualy pluck themselves through strees, or a change of surroundings, and they also pick up the emotions of stress from their family i.e people they live with. Not sure if that's any use to you, although I'm sure Jane et all could help you further. I do hope he gets better though.
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debs12o
Weaned Todd
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Post by debs12o on Nov 26, 2005 2:49:54 GMT -7
Hi Maria, Thanks for aquick response. I don't think he is stressed - is he is I have no idea what is causing it, which make me feel even worse! There have been no change of surroundings and my partner and I are not stressed at the moment either! I am going to try to give him as much attention as possible today and see if he is any better by the end of the day!
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Maria.
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Post by Maria. on Nov 26, 2005 2:54:31 GMT -7
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Maria.
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Post by Maria. on Nov 26, 2005 2:56:57 GMT -7
Oops, the link doesn't come out properly !
Try searching for 'african grey feather plucking' in Google.
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Post by Jane on Nov 26, 2005 4:00:22 GMT -7
See this topic for info about plucking (after the info about molting): vdnent.proboards41.com/index.cgi?board=faq&action=display&thread=1126007090 It sounds like it could be a local irritation which is causing him to pluck and be moody. As he has done it before in the same place it might be an idea to take him to the vet. He was plucking his wing as well last time, is that okay now? Jane
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Post by Preston on Nov 26, 2005 4:29:28 GMT -7
6 months between plucking could very well be a molt reaction, keep up the skin care. Try to occupy him during excessive episodes.
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debs12o
Weaned Todd
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Post by debs12o on Nov 26, 2005 4:31:32 GMT -7
Hi Jane,
Thanks for getting back to me!
The wing is okay, although there are still some feathers missing! The last time we took him to the vet they checked him over for mites an said there was no sign of anything like that! They gave him a jag anyway. I can't take him to the vet until monday now as they are closed over the weekend.
I am just so worried as I have never seen him like this before! Even the last time he done this he wasn't this irratable! Everytime I got to pet him he just growls. We have just been cuddled up on the couch for the past hour and this seems to sooth him, but the minute he is finished with cuddling he is back to the tail. I don't think he is going to be happy until every feather is out. He has even drawn a little blood with the plucking.
I just don't know what to do. Do you think he could be sick???
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debs12o
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Post by debs12o on Nov 26, 2005 4:32:02 GMT -7
Should I try with the aloe vera again in the mean time?
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Post by Jane on Nov 26, 2005 4:44:29 GMT -7
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Post by Africanewbie on Nov 26, 2005 9:53:31 GMT -7
I feel very sad for Charlie and is very afraid that he may start chewing on his skin to relieve the irritation. Actually, when I saw your thread earlier, I was going to suggest you look for parasites because they usually attack around the rump. The colony nest mostly in the creases on the cage, any cracks or openings on perches and covers. During the light hours they would be in their hiding places and would only come out in the dark to feed.
To check for mites, you should do so during the night after it has been dark for a while. 1) Listen for scratching noises or foot stamping by Charlie which in most cases is a telltale sign that he is being bothered by mites. 2) Use a flashlight and carefully examine perches, cage wire, covers, surrounding areas and Charlie. 3) This is a very good method also. Completely cover cage with a white bedsheet before you take lights off and then return a few hours later to examine the inner side of the sheet. They are very tiny and looks like black specks of dust or very red if they had fed already and can be seen scurrying about to get out of the light.
I have heard of a parasite and a type of minute worm that bores through the skin and inbeds itself just beneath the surface. The infected area is said to look like a reddish pimple I have never personally seen them so I can't vouch for it.
If Charlie can't restrain himself from biting at the affected area and you are not able to see the vet until after the next couple of days then I suggest that you put a collar on his neck which would require you to towel him. You can use the cardboard cylinder on which paper towels are rolled on to or light plastic tubing about the same diameter but I reccommend the cardboard tubing because it is lightweight and much safer. Slit an opening down one side, measure and cut an appropriate length to put on his neck and then glue, tape or staple edges of slit together so that it can't be removed. The proper length to cut would be long enough so that it prevents him from bending his neck towards his body but yet allow him the freedom to eat, drink or clamor about without discomfort. At first he may find it very annoying so you must have enough time to spend with him until he settles down. If for any other reason, it would provide a distraction.
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