lwalker83
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Post by lwalker83 on Aug 18, 2005 11:01:52 GMT -7
hello. i am a owner of a 2 year old African Grey.his name is Austin. i have had him from a baby and the last year and a half have been great, he is very loving and a bit of a mummy's boy.he has no problem talking or picking up words. the last 6 months he testing my Patience to the limit and my partner. he has started biting us both, he is making loud noises that go right though you. he does not seem to be loving anymore. . i want to get our relationship back on track. he is treated well. he eats wot ever we have, he has a big outside cage to him self when its nice outside.he has a radio for them hours i am at work. please anyone with any ideas that could help i would be willing to try.i would love to do more things with Austin but don't really know where to start. thank you. lucy
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Post by Jane on Aug 18, 2005 11:20:39 GMT -7
This behaviour can be quite common around this age. It is thought to coincide with the period in the wild when they would leave their family group. Monty went through it and he was quite difficult for a while but it passed and he is now the most docile and affectionate Grey you could find. Make sure you don't react to the biting. If he bites put him in his cage and ignore him for a while. He will also be picking up any frustration you feel towards him so try to remain confident with him and reward him with lots of praise when he behaves as he used to.
Jane
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Post by lidiam on Aug 18, 2005 13:20:25 GMT -7
Joshua went through this stage, too, and now he is lovely. You just have to hang on in there and be patient and ignore the bad behaviour.
The thing that I'd be concerned about is the noise making. Is he actually trying to get your attention? I can't imagine he makes the noise when you're interacting with him. You might try distracting him in some way when he makes the noise.
Joshua used to do the sound of knives and forks against plates when he was not getting attention. He still does it from time to time, and he knows it's irritating, but usually it's because he's feeling left out.
Lidia
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Post by Preston on Aug 18, 2005 20:35:04 GMT -7
I actually don’t know how to present this, but Jane is scientifically correct. I find Lidia along the lines of my thinking in actuality. Pete acts up only when he wants or needs something, especially fresh water that he will dirty in 5 minutes, but expects more. He learned discipline that most don’t advise here, being around dogs. He knows a strong “no”, “go home”, and “stop it” quite well. He tries to bite as you replace his water; thus gets it dumped on him. This is different than most advice on this board, but I get another bowl of water to find a happy bird; he drinks his fill and comes for an apologetic pet. He sometimes is preening his feet and hollers “OW” “NO BITING” then returns to his business. He listens better than our 3 dogs and it wasn’t on purpose. Don’t react, but scold a tad along with Jane’s advice; ignore him for awhile. Pull back into your space and say NO! Don’t be surprised if he says it before you do; that’s the game they are inventing but will drop as soon as they find you’re serious. Good luck. That’s kind of three different views of the same thing; observe and find your ground. Your going to need it!
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Post by haani on Aug 19, 2005 2:12:19 GMT -7
hi i dont know about greys but our local bird Alexandrian parrot and ringneck are known for this behaviour too when they reach certain age. some says they try to test the power of their beaks and some say they are getting mature and like jane said ready to make their own home be patient and treat him as usual soon this phase will be over.
haani
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Post by lwalker83 on Aug 19, 2005 9:07:53 GMT -7
i no he screams to get my attention because he knows it gets my attention. i will have him out and he just keeps trying to bite me. i was able to rub his head for ages and he would close his eyes. Now he dont seem to want to no. somtimes i wish he could tell me wot he wants me to do. somtimes i feel like i have done some thing wrong to him and he wants to hurt me to tell me off.austin is my first parrot and if i had another i would do things so different. he does not talk when i play with him and never has can i change that or is it to late. Another question Austin seem to get fustrated when he is out with me he makes a funny noises and opens he wings abit and walks round in a funny way. not sure wot this means but its hard to explain.i dont no if anyone agrees with me but parrots are like kids and austin is just like me. he has my moods and my ways.
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Post by Jane on Aug 19, 2005 9:28:43 GMT -7
Opening the wings, making funny noises and walking in a funny way are actually all part of mating behaviour. It is a sort of display and is sometimes followed by the regurgitation of some food for you!
Jane
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Post by lidiam on Aug 19, 2005 9:56:23 GMT -7
Or the walking around in a funny way could be the stompy tyrannosaurus walk thing, which is play behaviour.
It doesn't sound like you are doing much wrong, but you may be misreading his signals somewhat.
Don't lose patience.
Go through all the information linked to on this forum, especially in the behaviour menu, you really will find it useful.
Hang in there.
Lidia
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Post by Preston on Aug 19, 2005 23:12:26 GMT -7
Funny Lidia mentioned tyrannosaurus; many scholars believe that birds have descended from dinosaurs. Teratarsal is a three toed bird. Tera, in ancient Greek means “Monster”, but evolved into three by science using the Chadic language because the monster had three toes. Our Greys are Tetratarsal, Tetra is four in ancient Greek. Tarsal is a Hawk, but in approx. 1350 AD in the King’s English it was tassel, meaning many cords tied to one point, thus toes to ankle. Thanks to Geoffrey Chaucer I knew that! Falcons had a leash (Tassel) tied to their ankle. Am I correct Dr. Lidia? Dr. P
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Post by lidiam on Aug 20, 2005 0:16:31 GMT -7
Erm, Dr. Preston, all I can say - and I say it passionately - is D'OH!.
Involved as I am research about religious structures of the ancient near east, I know not of what you speak! I mentioned T-Rex because Joshua looks like one when he stomps around!
Mind you, I did read an article somewhere a few weeks back that said that birds are taxonomically classified as reptiles.
Would that be right, Dr. Jane?
Lidia
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Post by Jane on Aug 20, 2005 2:36:58 GMT -7
Birds are descended from reptiles and still share some reptilian features, one of which is a salt gland which certain birds such as seabirds use to excrete salt very efficiently. They can ingest quite high quantities of salt because of this, unlike birds such as parrots.
Jane
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Post by Preston on Aug 20, 2005 12:53:10 GMT -7
Lidia, I apologize for my assumption that you were attempting to gain a Doctorate in Archeology/Anthropology. I remember you mentioning a “dig”. My minor was there because I needed history credit in the “prerecs”. I have enough hours to claim associates in the subject but have enough credentials as it is. BSEE, MSME, ScD, and PE. I wasn’t trying to be facetious in calling you Dr.; just a friendly leg up so to speak. I was in “the hole” on language for a Doctorate at the end; so being a history lover I studied ancient Greek, Latin, and Middle English. The English was the worst because I could read most of it being my native tongue, but some of the words were out in left field! DOAH! Here I am, off subject AGAIN.
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Post by lidiam on Aug 20, 2005 13:21:10 GMT -7
Preston,
What are you apologising for? I thought you were being funny, and sweet!
The degree I am working towards is mostly historiographic, and partially archaeological, but not anthropological. I have a healthy interest in a lot of areas, but I don't risk claiming knowledge where I have none!
You've a very wide academic background for someone involved in engineering (do I remember correctly?)! It's always nice to meet someone who has wide interests.
Lidia
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