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Post by Ashiraz on May 1, 2005 0:49:50 GMT -7
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Post by lidiam on May 2, 2005 3:36:21 GMT -7
Maybe it works for him ... but it looks and sounds mad to me. Especially the 'heading' business.
Lidia
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Aadhil
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Post by Aadhil on May 2, 2005 6:27:57 GMT -7
Hey, Ive gone through the site with a fine toothed comb, and it all seems legit to me. Check his feedback. The only skeptics Ive seen so far are ones who haven't been to his workshops. If getting wounded means having a nice tame parrot vs. an out of control untamed parrot for the rest of our lives, then I think he's methods are the best. After all what are wounds...they eventually heal. To be more precise, If you don't call 'taming the most wild parrot under the timeframe of an hour' impressive, then I don't know what is  |
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Post by Sophia on May 2, 2005 8:12:50 GMT -7
Here's my 2 cents' worth (and believe me, what I have to say is not worth more, feel free to correct me)  Imho we need to take the bird's natural behaviour into consideration. There is a fine line between acting awkward and acting "like a bird". Everyting I see on Ken's site seems valid, but to try this at home without the proper techniques might turn against you. It might become a strain on both the parrot and the owner and a cause for stress. On his site Ken sums it up pretty well: We do not recommend that you attempt these techniques without professional supervision |
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Post by Africanewbie on May 3, 2005 7:52:04 GMT -7
I visited the above site and read most of everything there. I am familiar with some of his methods which I learnt as a young boy with two mature wild caught amazons and several parrotlets. His technique is an aggressive approach in forcing the birds to accept what they are afraid of the most. human contact Offering your hand, palm on the beak, offering head first, using gloves etc. are ways of "breaking the ice", making the intial contact between you and the bird. The technique may not be acceptable by many but it does work and you will get bitten more often than not. I am a bit skeptical about how quickly he handles the problematic birds in his workshop though unless he's had former contact with them before the classes. Birds with bad habits especially those with phobias towards human closeness caused by severe maltreatment and mis-handling, requires at least several days to weeks with the same person before it would allowing any kind of handling at all. But whatever you are willing to try just remember that your self confidence in handling the birds and your patience are the most important factors for the process to be successful.
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Post by lidiam on May 3, 2005 7:58:53 GMT -7
Hey, Ive gone through the site with a fine toothed comb, and it all seems legit to me. Check his feedback. The only skeptics Ive seen so far are ones who haven't been to his workshops. ... To be more precise, If you don't call 'taming the most wild parrot under the timeframe of an hour' impressive, then I don't know what is I just don't believe everything I read on the basis of online 'feedback'. You try it, put it into practice, then get back to me.  |
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Post by Africanewbie on May 3, 2005 8:04:37 GMT -7
I also forgot to mention, and Jane has repeatedly advised others to do, getting the birds to accept food from your hand can make the birds more approachable and familiar with hand contact. This method takes longer depending on the mental condition of the bird and that's exactly what Mr. Ken Globus spoke of, that his method is a quicker way to get it done.
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Post by Africanewbie on May 3, 2005 8:12:09 GMT -7
It's not all new. What I am familiar with, works.
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