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Post by adrian on Jun 5, 2005 7:03:33 GMT -7
hello!
I am new on this topic list! (that is because I was searching for articles about CAG). I want to ask you what yould you recommend: a 1 year old CAG imported from Congo or a hand fed youngster of 2 and a half months old?
Maybe the answer is already on the forum but I am kind in a hurry for a gift...
P.S. I've also seen a hand fed 6 month old electus roratus that was already talking. Is it a possibility as well, or are they far from the CAGs?
Thanks and wait quick answers!
Adi
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Post by lidiam on Jun 5, 2005 7:53:19 GMT -7
In general, the hand-raised AG would be the better option, but it does depend on the bird. Have you met them? How do they seem to you?
AGs are all different, and their learning rates are all different too. Some birds talk earlier than others. There are people on this forum whose birds spoke their first words at only a few months old. My AG, Joshua, spoke first when he was about two years old (but hasn't shut up since!).
Bred and hand-raised birds will most likely be more socialised. Bred and parent-raised birds will be somewhat socialised, some more than others, depending on their circumstances, their personalities, and the people who bred them.
I feel concerned about birds being imported from the wild (or just from abroad). It hardly seems necessary or fair in this day and age when birds are bred so easily. Captured birds are likely to be traumatised, and imported birds can be unwell and sometimes diseased, as well as traumatised. Maybe these birds will adjust. Maybe they won't.
Good luck, welcome to the board, and keep us updated with whatever you decide.
Lidia
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Post by adrian on Jun 5, 2005 8:09:20 GMT -7
by the way , do you need to make any vaccination on them?
Any response about electus roratus?
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Post by lidiam on Jun 5, 2005 8:15:01 GMT -7
I got Joshua in England and subsequently moved to Ireland, and he had to be vaccinated against Newcastle Disease (I think), and also to be tested for the same disease before he was allowed into the country. But once I had the vet's certificate, there was no problem getting him into Ireland.
I don't know anything about vaccinations other than that, but there are others on this board who might. Wait for them to chime in.
I know nothing about electus parrots, sorry.
Lidia
ps. Added later: he was tested for Newcastle Disease, but not vaccinated, sorry. It was 12 years ago, though.
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Post by adrian on Jun 5, 2005 9:05:03 GMT -7
thx a lot!
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Post by adrian on Jun 5, 2005 10:28:07 GMT -7
I still wait for other opinions as well. In the meantime, I read some more about electus roratus and it seem is not a very bright bird...
So back to Jacos...
By the way, what difference is between CAG and AG?
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Post by Jane on Jun 5, 2005 11:53:22 GMT -7
There are two sub species of the African Grey, commonly called the Congo African Grey and the Timneh African Grey. The Congo is a larger bird, with a black beak and a bright red tail. The Timneh has a pale brownish area on the beak and a dark, maroon tail. It is sometimes said to be less highly strung than the Congo but the intelligence and talking abilities are the same.
I think the hand raised Grey would be preferable, apart from the obvious reasons against an imported bird, the hand reared is younger and will be already tame.
I believe a hand fed Eclectus would also make a good pet.
Jane
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Post by lidiam on Jun 7, 2005 14:35:31 GMT -7
Yeah, sorry, I usually say AG (African Grey), as opposed to CAG or TAG. Joshua is a CAG.
Lidia
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Post by gandolf on Jun 15, 2005 21:37:49 GMT -7
There is no comparison between the Grey and a Eclectus.
I have had several of each through the years.
The Eclectus is beautiful, motionless at times and of the four I have had only one talked and it talked a lot, I could only understand about half of it though. They do not liked to be touched especially on the head but seam to tolerate it elsewhere.
The Grey is more entertaining by far and has the best 'human' quality to their voice and also possesses astounding mimic capabilities. Their vocal capability still impresses me even after years of exposure.
I don't mean to take anything from the Eclectus because they are special in their own right.
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