hillarious
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Post by hillarious on Jan 1, 2006 15:18:45 GMT -7
If the pic in the link above is a 4 year old, then yes it is deffinately a female. Young normal greys look exactly the same until their first moult, when usually the male gets a bright yellow head and loses the spots/bars under the tail and wings. Rearranging the cage really helps, since it will not make her as nesty.
Lindsay if you got a female normal grey, theres not really a way to tell how old she was because normal grey hens look exactly like juvenile cocks and hens. They should not really breed before 18 months, espically the female since before then their bodies are not really ready and the female can become egg bound. You should give them at least 6 months between clutches before laying again. As for the lutino baby, it's impossible to sex lutinos since they are sexually monomorphic. Most mutations of cockatiels are the same way. The only surefire way is DNA sex. If it is singing and displaying (lifting the wings up into the air on top of the cage or at random), it's likley that it is a male.
But yes, jamaio, if that pic is a 4 year old it is for sure a female.
Hope that helps
Hillari
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Post by traci on Jan 2, 2006 1:00:48 GMT -7
my female tiel has been laying eggs off and on 'with' a grate in the cage, this time i took the grate out, and put care fresh bedding down and she wont go to the bottom of the cage now and i also left one of the eggs in there to hopefully stop her. so far so good no more eggs... no way no how am i gonna get her a man i dont want babies, shes almost 7 yrs old ive had her for 2 yrs now.. ive been thru the breeding bit b4.. i dont have enough room to do it all again....
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Post by lindsay on Jan 2, 2006 4:08:04 GMT -7
" it is singing and displaying (lifting the wings up into the air on top of the cage or at random), it's likley that it is a male." Thanks, but the egg laying is a bit of a give away! I'm sure I read at the time though that if you have a grey male and a grey female the only way they would produce a Lutino chick would be because the male was split grey/lutino and then it would only appear in any females produced....a recessive gene or something. And sorry if my post was unclear but we'd had the adult female just over eighteen months when she produced chicks, There was some mating and egg laying earlier but never at the same time thankfully, although with hindsight she did have the clutch a little soon after the chick that didn't make it. No more babies in this house though!
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Post by lindsay on Jan 2, 2006 5:58:25 GMT -7
Found this...
Next, we'll put a Grey male, who is split for Lutino (he looks like a normal Grey), with a Grey female:
Grey split for Lutino male x Grey female
N/L x Ny
N L
N NN NL
y Ny Ly
When an N and an L occur together in the same box, always write the L second, because it is the recessive (not dominant) gene.
Here's the results:
25% Grey males (NN) 25% Grey split for Lutino males (N/L) (they look grey) 25% Grey females (Ny) 25% Lutino females (Ly)
Here is an example of where you can put two Grey birds together and get a Lutino baby. When this happens with any sex-linked colour, you know for certain that:
1. the male is split for that colour
2. the babies that show the colour are always female
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Post by Preston on Jan 2, 2006 8:02:50 GMT -7
My breeding pair consists of a White Faced male and a Lutino female. They raised 8 chicks, and the ones I remember were 2 Lutinos, 2 Normals, and 1 White Faced. We didn't want to burn out the hen (Angel) so we took away the nesting ability. See my site under "My Flock" to see them.
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Post by anniea1234 on Jan 2, 2006 19:42:16 GMT -7
We have a pied female around 4, who we broke down and got her a nest box. She would lay under the couch, we tried moving her to another room and she layed in the water cup. I've also found eggs of hers in the laundry room. She hadn't been bred, so they were all infertile. Your Rosie is def. a female, the males greys get the yellow heads. The females stay grey.
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hillarious
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Post by hillarious on Jan 2, 2006 20:07:50 GMT -7
I was refering to the lutino chick when I was saying that singing is male behavior since thats what I thought you were talking about. "As for the lutino baby...If it is singing and displaying (lifting the wings up into the air on top of the cage or at random), it's likley that it is a male. " Sorry if it was unclear I have a male WF and a female Lutino, but I won't ever breed them simply because there are too many homeless birds and birds in crappy homes, and I would rather adopt than breed. The only purchased bird I will have will be my TAG who comes home in a couple weeks. Traci if your female keeps laying....maybe she sees you as her "man" since she does not have one haha. I had that problem with my female, so I restricted rubbing and scratching and ignored her advances. Anyway, sounds like she is ok now. You guys should post pics of your babies
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Post by lindsay on Jan 3, 2006 2:14:20 GMT -7
Sorry Hillarious, this conversation is getting more mixed up by the minute I'm talking about the lutino chick too, only she's three now so not much of a chick anymore! Definitely female (hence the occasional egg) but she's only started singing the past couple of months since we got the TAG and I was wondering if it's normal for hens to sing?
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hillarious
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Post by hillarious on Jan 3, 2006 22:37:32 GMT -7
Aaaaahhh...OK now I am less confused! SOrry about that. No, it's not normal for a female to sing and whistle, but it's not unheard of. Maybe the other voice of the new TAG is making her feel more outgoing??
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Post by nancyd on Jan 8, 2006 18:43:20 GMT -7
Jamaio I also heard that you should take the toy away that's she's getting frisky with.
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